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Beyond Leadership

Hosts Jim Pae and Elizabeth Pugel escort you through a network of thought leaders, sharing world-class insight on leadership and cutting-edge hospital management approaches. They will inspire and perhaps compel you to reinvent your practices – and yourself. Developed and managed by Cleveland Clinic Global Executive Education.

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Dr. Jeffrey Chapman, Dr. James Gutierrez, and Dr. Lisa Yerian (left to right)
June 25, 2026

Rethinking Lean: Delivering Value with Purpose

In the episode, Dr. Lisa Yerian, Dr. James Gutierrez, and Dr. Jeffrey Chapman explore how Lean goes beyond cost-cutting to become a purpose-driven approach that empowers caregivers, improves processes, reduces burnout, and enhances patient outcomes. Through real examples – from redesigning workflows to improving access, teamwork, and caregiver wellbeing – the conversation highlights how Lean creates sustainable value and transforms the culture of…

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June 25, 2026

Rethinking Lean: Delivering Value with Purpose

In the episode, Dr. Lisa Yerian, Dr. James Gutierrez, and Dr. Jeffrey Chapman explore how Lean goes beyond cost-cutting to become a purpose-driven approach that empowers caregivers, improves processes, reduces burnout, and en…

May 28, 2026

The Adaptable Leader: How Flexibility Strengthens Team Engagement

This episode explores how Cleveland Clinic leaders are redefining engagement, resilience, and purpose in today’s evolving healthcare landscape. Through real world stories listeners gain insight into the strength, empathy, and…

April 30, 2026

Leadership Lessons as an Associate Chief of Staff

This episode will share practical insights on leading with empathy, making decisions amid uncertainty, developing others, and translating organizational values into everyday action. The conversation offers thoughtful reflecti…

March 26, 2026

Igniting Change: Driving Innovation in Healthcare

This episode will focus on the essential strategies for building a culture of innovation in healthcare. The panel discusses the frameworks needed to transition frontline ideas into system-wide solutions, illustrating how a mi…

February 26, 2026

The Integrated Leader: Balancing Finance and Operations in Uncertain Environments

This episode will focus on Balancing Finance and Operations in Uncertain Environments. Our panel will evaluate specific frameworks for managing expenses and scaling innovation while maintaining a steadfast commitment to patie…

January 29, 2026

Building Engagement and Trust Through Leadership

This episode will focus on Building Engagement and Trust through Leadership, features Dr. Serpil Erzurum, and Dr. Brian Harte. Together, they discuss how leaders can foster psychological safety, build resilient teams, and cre…

December 20, 2023

Listening is the Key

Raed Dweik, MD, MBA, Chief of the Integrated Hospital Care Institute at Cleveland Clinic, joins host Brian Bolwell, MD to discuss his path to leadership, conflict management, and the benefits of active listening.

November 17, 2023

Bring back the Humanity

Margaret McKenzie, MD, MS, FACOG, Vice President of Cleveland Clinic South Pointe Hospital and Marymount Hospital, joins host, Brian Bolwell, MD to discuss her journey to leadership, the importance of introspection, and how t…

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